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Dynamical Systems

This seems to be abandoned book, the only content is largly vacuous. I don't believe it is likely to be extended or worked on because it is both a technical topic, and represents to original author's goals for such a book (graduate level vs undergraduate). Thenub314 (talk) 20:46, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

It does seem abandoned; the single existing page hasn't been updated since 2018 and the main book page hasn't been updated since 2019. Unless someone quickly decides to pick up on it, I can't really see it staying here at Wikibooks :/ —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 13:35, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello there,

currently I'm working over at the German page, because I have begun to work with a new, more intuitive terminology. My current plan is to first finish the German version and then possibly to translate it. To finish the German version will take at least until the end of this year. Until then, you shouldn't expect any progress. Afterwards, I may feel inclined to pick up the project, depending on my human rights situation. --Mathmensch (discuss • contribs) 09:26, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Files from Illustrated Guide to the world of Spira (FFX and FFX-2)

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Various pages in Basics of fine-art photography

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History of Grand-Popo

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Selected Essays

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Remembering the Templars

Seems to be pretty much an encyclopedic article about the Knights Templar, which makes it out of scope; enormous amount of links to enWP and may even just be an import. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:59, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 23:53, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
• Keep. This is one of Panic2k4's books, not a WP import. They remain an active, if sporadic, contributor and may well return to this in the future. MarcGarver (discuss • contribs) 15:41, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

  I just realized they were never notified about the nom, so I'll go ahead and do so on their talk page for posterity. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:10, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Half-Life Computation

Doesn't seem in-scope as a book—just seems like a single page on how to do a specific calculation. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:06, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

God and Religious Toleration

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Kashubian Dictionary

Out of scope here; material should be hosted at Wiktionary (I've suggested it there). —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Any content in this dictionary should be already be at wiktionary:Wiktionary:Requested entries (Kashubian)/Kashubian Dictionary, where we will be able to slowly make entries for these. Vininn126 (discuss • contribs) 21:51, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Biblioþeke

Out of scope; seems to be an incomplete translation of the bible into a conlang. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 00:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Wikis for Retail Store Managers

Abandoned, unclear scope, little content, unclear path for development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:30, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:10, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Human Geography

Abandoned for two decades without any development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:50, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. The page has a list of chapters/sections, but these are not linked. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:56, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
• Delete as I just tagged rfd.--Jusjih (discuss • contribs) 02:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Neuro Linguistic Programming

Abandoned, very little meaningful content, unclear path for development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:56, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Scrapebook Linguistics

Abandoned, little to no meaningful content, unclear scope or potential for development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 03:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Delete - an earlier version of this page was imported to Wikiversity as Portal:Linguistics (and subsequently edited into oblivion). The followup edits here aren't needed at WV. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 07:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

How to Be a Good Camp Counselor

Book is un/under-developed and abandoned, and the scope/potential for development is somewhat unclear to me. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 03:07, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Annotated Republic of China Regulations/Regulations for Road Traffic Signs, Markings, and Signals/1989/Manual for Obtention of Driving licence: Signals and Lights

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Australian Property Law

Has only one page (introduction) with little content. It has been abandoned now for almost 20 years with no development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Subpages are redlinks except for Australian Property Law/Introduction, which does not save the material. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:09, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Chinese Checkers

Extremely minimal content and abandoned for almost 20 years. Was previously nominated for deletion in 2006 but kept on the grounds that it could be expanded—clearly this has not happened. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

Niw Englisch

Fiction / original research - a conlang being (very slowly) created by the author of the book.

The following books are closely related to that project and should be deleted as well:

• NiwEnglisc
• Þat englisce Alphabet
• Lernung þer Stafræwe
• Þe ettbære Garden

as well as Biblioþeke, which has already been nominated for deletion.

Delete all per the above. I can find no evidence of the conlang outside Wikibooks and this sole author. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 13:03, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Mac OS X Leopard

Yet another abandoned, underdeveloped book on an obsolete operating system. (Mac OS X Leopard was released in 2007, and has been unsupported since 2011.) If there were more content in this book, it could possibly be refactored into a version-independent book about macOS, but there's effectively nothing here. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 18:42, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Delete . If it were more fleshed out, it could be kept as archival. However, there's so little there. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:47, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Advanced Calculus

Abandoned for many years; consists of only one page for one theorem; no introduction or scope. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:32, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:08, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Algebra and Number Theory

Abandoned >1 decade; consists of one page with very little content; no introduction or scope —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:35, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Has a list of redlinks for subpages; there is one subpage: Algebra and Number Theory/Elementary Number Theory. This is not useful and has been abandoned for too long. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:05, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Basic Ancient Greek

Abandoned for many years; very little actual content; only real contributor was an IP whose last edit was in 2015. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:37, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:06, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Blender Game Engine for Morons

Abandoned for at least a decade; consists of main page only; almost no meaningful content. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:07, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

BOINC

Abandoned >1 decade; consists of main page only; almost no meaningful content; unclear scope. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:07, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

HP Open View NNM Exam Guide

One page only; abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content; scope unclear —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:40, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Delete . HP OpenView no longer exists as a product (and its successor HP Network Management Center has been discontinued as well!); neither does HP's certification exam for it. There's certainly no purpose in writing a new guide for a nonexistent exam for a obsolete product. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 19:54, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Games

Abandoned for ~1 decade; little to no meaningful content; one paragraph in entire book; scope unclear —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:43, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:08, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Biochemistry/The Cell

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Folktales from the Mon People of Koh Kred

Seems to be out of scope, since Wikibooks does not host fiction. –Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:29, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 00:11, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

High performance computing

Abandoned >1 decade; only contains main page with little content; scope not well-defined. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:14, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:52, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Doom Modding

Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; very little content; unclear scope/path to completion —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:20, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

Global Illumination and HDRI Maps in 3D Studio Max

Abandoned >1 decade; one chapter only, which contains only a handful of sentences. Not enough content and no path for development —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. The only subpage is this: Global Illumination and HDRI Maps in 3D Studio Max/HDRI Maps. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Pages in Security+ Certification

Both Security+ Certification/Threats and Vulnerabilities and Security+ Certification/Network Security seem to be deprecated per @Tule-hog's recent overhaul; moreover, the pages in question seem to consist entirely of outlinks to Wikipedia. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 00:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Obsolete Microsoft certification guides

• MCSE Server 2003 Certification Core Exams (exam 70-290 retired July 2013)
• Microsoft Certified IT Professional (exam 70-444 retired June 2011; exam 70-450 retired July 2015)
• Microsoft Certified Professional Developer (exams 70-526, 70-528, 70-529, 70-547, 70-548 retired June 2011; exams 70-290, 70-536 retired July 2013)

These books all correspond to Microsoft certification exams which were retired in 2011-2015, and consist almost entirely of lists of course objectives copied from official course materials. There's almost no original educational content in any of these three books, and it's highly unlikely that they're going to be improved, since the certification exams they correspond to are no longer offered.

(Reference for the exam retirement dates is: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/credentials/support/retired-certification-exams)

Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 00:27, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Delete per the above; additionally, some of these have very little content at all. Some pages may be candidates for speedy deletion. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

GNU Autoconf

Little to no meaningful content, abandoned >1 decade. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:42, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. Nothing particularly salvageable from this. --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 10:07, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:50, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

IB Textbook Reviews

Very little meaningful educational content; seems like opinion at most? —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Kurdish

Very little content at all, no outline or potential for development; abandoned for years. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

English-Arabic dictionary

Out of scope at Wikibooks since this is already completely covered by Wiktionary. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:49, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

Comment English-Arabic dictionary/Colors in Arabic gets a nontrivial amount of traffic (~50 views/day). It'd be nice if we could at least preserve this as a redirect to an equivalent resource. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 22:38, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

• Keep: a book selecting vocabulary into introductory groups is very different from a lexical database such as Wiktionary. In Wiktionary, one does not know where to start learning the vocabulary. Admittedly, the title gives excessively broad scope, so something should probably be done. (The argument with 50 views/day has some force.) --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Audacity

Abandoned 17 years; consists only of paltry introduction. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:43, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Delete - Audacity already has high-quality, freely licensed documentation at https://manual.audacityteam.org/ (and it's even a wiki!). Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 21:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Java Logging

Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; little to no meaningful content. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:44, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. All indicated subpages are redlinks. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:27, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Mercury Programming

Abandoned >1 decade; undeveloped (single page only); no scope or plan for expansion/future development. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:46, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. The only subpage: Mercury Programming/Types. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:26, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Server+ Certification

Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; little to no meaningful content; mostly a few section headers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:48, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:25, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

NetBeans

No meaningful content; chapter list only; abandoned >1 decade —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:50, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. No subpages; all listed subpages are redlinks. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:25, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Valgrind

Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; very little content; unclear scope; no path forward for development —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:52, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

Delete - readers would be much better off with Valgrind's own quick start guide (which is even freely licensed). Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 17:32, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Open Religion

Original research/soapbox/NPOV; abandoned >1 decade; main page only —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:40, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Delete - out of scope religious/philosophical content similar to #Developing a Universal Religion, but less developed. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 07:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete . For the record, the page starts: "This project is to create an Open Source religion and philosophy, transparent and accessible to all, directed to interest all without discrimination." By the way, I would not mind instead quasi-deleting by moving to userspace of the main author so that anyone can review later what kind of material is being deleted. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:03, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Programming for the consultant

Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content; no plan for development —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:42, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. The only subpage: Programming for the consultant/Approaching A New Code Base. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:24, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Metroid

Abandoned; main page only; no meaningful content; no plan for development —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:44, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom; could be speedy. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Radiata Stories

Abandoned; little to no meaningful content; one page only with little content; no path for development —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 14:46, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. The one existing subpage is Radiata Stories/Character Recruitment. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Dialect

Scope unclear; abandoned with no plan for development; little to no meaningful content; most pages qualify for speedy anyway. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 12:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 06:21, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Programming Text Adventures In Basic

Main page only; abandoned >1 decade; little meaningful content —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:17, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom, but I think a change of Wikibooks:Deletion policy is needed so that we can delete useless stubs abandoned for a long time. The nominated page cannot be of any use as is. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 05:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

UNIX Basics

Abandoned >1 decade; little to no meaningful content —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:23, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete : no meaningful content. A bit of meaningful content is in Guide to Unix. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 05:53, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

How to Write a Compiler

Abandoned >1 decade; main page only; little meaningful content —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:24, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom: almost no meaningful content. No further reading. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 05:54, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Script Languages Synopsis

Abandoned >1 decade; little content; unclear path for development —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 21:26, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 05:55, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Epicurus

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Epicurus/On Matter - β (Περὶ φύσεως)

Merging with the other Epicurus page.

Delete I'm leaning towards this whole book being deleted. The scope and structure of this book as an educational textbook are unclear and the whole thing seems potentially like original research or an essay. Unless I've missed something, the main editor seems unresponsive to querying and is repeatedly removing the query flags. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:13, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

CompTIA Certifications

Network+ Certification moved and updated at Wikiversity.

Security+ Certification moved and updated at Wikiversity.

A+ Certification moved and updated at Wikiversity.

De-duplicating work across Wikimedia. Subpages should all be deleted as well. Might be worth leaving a redirect to WV for future users. Tule-hog (discuss • contribs) 21:02, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

I centralized at Wikiversity since the projects (as of now) are compendiums of links and resources based on the listed objectives of each exam, sometimes with explicitly suggested 'activities'. Very little in the way of 'book'-like exposition. Tule-hog (discuss • contribs) 21:06, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Thought about leaving a {{MovedToWikiversity}} but that template has been deleted in the past. Tule-hog (discuss • contribs) 02:52, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Wikiversal generated pages

• Wiki Assistant
• User Page Builder

  Inexplicably, the links on the main page of this book all point to pages under w:User:Hazel45onnie/User Page Builder on the English Wikipedia. I'm nominating those pages for deletion on enwiki as a separate process (here).

• WikiverSuite/Wikiversant/Gunport Builder Demo 1
• Wiki Tutorial

  Some of the internal links in this book are written as if the book is named Tutorial instead of Wiki Tutorial. You may have to use Special:Prefixindex/Wiki Tutorial to read through the whole thing.

These books were all generated using Wikiversal, a third-party wiki editing tool written by User:Planotse which is no longer downloadable. Many of them contain broken internal links or other outdated content (like references to Wikiversity being a subproject of Wikibooks), and the HTML-heavy markup generated by Wikiversal makes them unreasonably difficult to edit.

(As as aside, the markup used for these "presentations" is completely broken on the mobile site, e.g. [1]. For some reason, the forward/back buttons are invisible, making it impossible to navigate from page to page.)

The first three books are all instructions on how to use Wikiversal itself. Since it's no longer available, they are of no use. The fourth, while described as a "Wiki tutorial", primarily instructs users to use Wikiversal to build pages on the wiki; its main page should probably be redirected to Using Wikibooks as a much more comprehensive resource.

Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 02:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

It isn't inexplicable that these pages and links are on the English Wikipedia. The spammers who developed these pages were primarily trying to peddle software for use on the English Wikipedia. Their pages on the English Wikipedia are also pending deletion as misusing Wikipedia for web hosting. Robert McClenon (discuss • contribs) 18:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Based on the name and some of the user's (now deleted) activity on Wikiversity, I think the software was actually intended primarily for use on Wikibooks and/or Wikiversity. Why they decided to host some of its documentation on Wikipedia is a mystery. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 18:52, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

It isn't worth trying to explain the behavior of spammers. Sometimes the explanation is stupidity and greed. Robert McClenon (discuss • contribs) 23:05, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

I haven't yet looked at the deletion request here. I am primarily an English Wikipedia editor, just as User:Omphalographer is primarily a Commons editor. Robert McClenon (discuss • contribs) 18:46, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete All - Spam. These books were created twelve years ago to peddle software to new users. This was an abuse of Wikimedia for commercial purposes. Robert McClenon (discuss • contribs) 18:51, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

PlanoTse Handbook for Job Search Automation

Much like the Wikiversal pages nominated above, this book is documentation for a piece of self-authored software by User:Planotse which is no longer available for download. I can't find any substantial references to this software anywhere online outside of this book itself, so it seems highly unlikely to be useful to anyone.

Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 02:49, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Delete per the above. If the software is not currently available and was never widely available or notable previously, I don't see why keeping it is useful, even for historicity. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

• Delete - This is more spam by a spammer. Robert McClenon (discuss • contribs) 23:17, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Roblox WF Wars

No textual content at all, just a couple of tables of data. I can't find any other information online about this game; for all we know, it may not even exist. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 04:30, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Delete as stated above. The content is so minimal, and the scope is not defined. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:32, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Salute, Jonathan! and its translations

Alo, Jonathan!

Bune Ğonatan!

Dag, Jonathan!

Glidis, o Jonathan!

Hai, Jon!

Hallo, Jonathan!

Haloo, Jonatan!

Hay, Jonathan!

Hej, Jonathan! (Germanisch)

Hej, Jonathan!

Hela, Jonathan!

Holo, Jonathan!

Oila, Jonatan!

Salam, Jonathan!

Salom, Jonatan!

Salu, Jon!

Salut Jonathan!

Salute, Jonathan!

Salut, Jonathan! (Interocidental)

Salut, Jonathan!

Salut, ionatano!

Salute, Jonathan! (Novlingue)

Salute, Jonathan! (Romanica)

Saluto, Jonathan! (Ido)

Saluto, Jonathan!

Sesan Jon!

Simi, Jonathan!

Sin Chao, Jonathan!

Terve, Jonathan!

Toki a, jan Jonatan!

Àlŏ, Jonathan!

Òla, Ionatà!

There are a couple of issues here:

1. Beyond their introductions, all of these books are written in languages which are not English, making them out of scope for the English Wikibooks.
2. All but one of these books are in fact written in constructed languages, most of them in recently created conlangs. In some cases (e.g. Sin Chao, Jonathan!), I can't find any reliable sources describing the target language outside of the translation itself.
3. Most of the translations (i.e. other than Salute, Jonathan! itself) were abandoned within the first five or so chapters (out of 100); none of them are complete, and there seems to be little effort to complete any of them.

While I recognize that this is an unusual project, and potentially one which could have some value, it's not at all clear to me that the English Wikibooks is the right place for it. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 00:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm really not sure what to do about these ones. While I recognize that this approach is certainly one method of teaching a language, I'm not sure that it constitutes an educational textbook. We do require that the English Wikibooks be written in English—for language-learning books, this typically means that the instructional parts are in English while the exercises are in the language being taught. I do think that if the language doesn't have much supporting evidence outside the book itself, it can safely be deleted. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Author of the book here. I originally wanted to put it in the Interlingue Wikibooks https://ie.wikibooks.org/wiki/Principal_p%C3%A1gine but it somehow got locked when I wasn't paying attention and so I ended up putting it here. Getting it unlocked requires going through the process of starting an Incubator and all the rest so I opted for here and then started putting some English-only content once it was done. It's sort of in the same vein as books like Lingua Latina per se Illustrata that have separate versions with teacher notes and whatnot. Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 1 - with notes After it was done the auxlang community really took to it which was a nice surprise. I think Ido has the largest number of chapters at the moment at 15.

If the vast content of this book could be used to justify a quick reopening of the Interlingue Wikibooks to move it there, I'd love to do that. I imagine that an incubator with 100+ book chapters would be enough to open a Wikibooks and that's what this is.

Mithridates (discuss • contribs) 06:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I just realized that we do have a proposal to reopen the Interlingue Wikibooks: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikibooks_Interlingue along with an Incubator page here. https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wb/ie/Principal_p%C3%A1gine

How easy would it be to migrate the entirety of Salute Jonathan to there? Mithridates (discuss • contribs) 06:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Mithridates! I'm not sure how incubator projects work, but I fully support migrating these books there. You may want to inquire over there and link to this discussion to support your request to move the content over there. Cheers! —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 13:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi!

Actually I have a third idea to propose after thinking about this again today (haven't been here much since I finished the book): I noticed that there is more English content than I remember and that might make it an awkward fit for the Interlingue Wikibooks. I definitely agree that having all the auxlang translations for new auxlang projects goes well beyond the scope of this Wikibooks. Finally, there are some auxlangs that are notable with their own Wikipedias.

So the idea is the following:

1 Leave the original here and I can continue the work on the version with English notes and grammar. That will make it the same as Lingua Latina per se Illustrata, English by the Nature Method, Athenaze and all the rest.

2 The Interlingua one can move to the Interlingua Wikibooks (maybe Romanica too if they want as it is sort of a dialect of Interlingua).

3 For Ido and Lingua Franca Nova which have a Wikipedia but not a Wikibooks, I'm a little bit unsure...technically they could have their own version like the original one but would require English explanations. I could let them know and see if they are willing to do so and see what they think (work on adding English to the books vs. move the content elsewhere).

4 The rest can move to a Github repo, then be deleted, and the front page of this book can have a single link to the repo.

Any thoughts on that? Adding the extra English content will be easy as it is my book and I know it inside and out. Edit: this page I just added.

Mithridates (discuss • contribs) 13:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to consider this! Here are my responses/questions:

• Is the original Salute, Jonathan! (Occidental)? Since that one is quite fleshed out, I agree that if you edit it so the primary language of the book (e.g. headers, instructions, etc) are written in English while leaving the actual story in Occidental, it would be okay and fit in more with instructional language textbooks.
• For your points 2 and 3, I'm not sure how those other projects work, so I'll leave it up to them. I'm not quite sure why they would need to move, since in theory they could be revised with English as the language of instruction? Although, they have been left incomplete for a long time.
• For your point 4, I have no problem with that.

Cheers! –Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 16:51, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello again,

It's the weekend so I have a bit more time to work on this. I've decided to merge the extra content from the following five chapters since the difference is fairly small and the original chapters should now have this English content. Could you delete these five pages now that they are no longer needed? Mithridates (discuss • contribs) 14:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 1 - with notes

Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 2 - with notes

Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 3 - with notes

Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 4 - with notes

Salute, Jonathan!/Capitul 5 - with notes Mithridates (discuss • contribs) 14:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Done —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:34, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep. Content of educational value that helps learn languages. I think more translations to natural languages should be produced. -Bronto Rex (discuss • contribs) 14:02, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Wooden Boats: Building and Repair

Abandoned almost 2 decades; a few pages, but each has only a few lines of text. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:46, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Stellar Scintillation

Extremely narrow scope that I don't think is quite book-worthy, especially given the low amount of content —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:48, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Future Teachers Meet Wiki

Abandoned; scope doesn't seem right for Wikibooks; underdeveloped. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:50, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete - this feels like it was an attempt to use Wikibooks to organize a university project and collect student writings; even if it had made more progress, it's not clear that the outcome would have been a textbook. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 18:42, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

IB Spanish

Abandoned 2 decades; seems like an idea for a book that was never actually implemented (minimal meaningful content) —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:55, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Luxembourgish

Abandoned; only non-main page is a list of movies—otherwise no meaningful content Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 07:25, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Data Recovery

Seems out of scope for an educational book; a couple paragraphs at most with no plan for development —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 01:58, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete - this is a worthy topic, but what's written here meanders between being vague and being actively bad advice. (The strings command is not an appropriate data recovery tool.) Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 02:14, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Competitive Programming

Survived deletion previously on the justification that it could potentially be expanded, but it's since been over a decade with no improvement; extremely minimal educational content —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 02:03, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Pages by User:TheoYalur

• Henri Poincaré Reader
• The Sight and Sound of the Greek Genocide Around the Kültürpark in Izmir
• God Disorder

These pages all appear to be personal essays, not educational texts. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 03:53, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

They are all original research. The editor asked to be unblocked so they could move to Wikiversity where OR is permitted. As they have now returned to creating these dubious pages, I have blocked them again and deleted the most recent creation as out of scope original research. The "reader" might be acceptable. MarcGarver (discuss • contribs) 12:37, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks @MarcGarver! I'm not sure about Henri Poincaré Reader since it has NPOV issues and it reads like a self-published essay piece with personal hypothesizing/opinion/research, no references, etc. Its educational scope is still somewhat unclear, as is the structure—it does not seem textbook-like in form or style. Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 15:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

You spent more time reading it than me I suspect. I only skimmed it, but I am sure you are right that it has the same issues as the other creations and should be deleted. MarcGarver (discuss • contribs) 16:14, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

With regard to the "Reader", at best it's a collection of loosely translated excerpts of texts which, for the most part, already have quality translations available on Wikisource. For instance, the section Henri Poincaré Reader#The Measure of Time (1898) is already translated as s:The Foundations of Science/The Value of Science/Chapter 2. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 20:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

User:גני טווילרי

Please delete a redirection page of the former user page, which was not active in the En Wikibooks. Thank you. לובר (discuss • contribs) 02:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

@לובר: Done though in the future please use {{speedy}} for such deletions. --SHB2000 (discuss • contribs) 10:53, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Cyber Guide to ODU Career Management

As best I can tell, this was intended at one point to be an internal resource for employees of an ODU (Old Dominion University) career office; what little of it exists is primarily focused on minutae irrelevant to anyone outside that office, like who to email to schedule an information session or a collection of meeting notes. It's also all been essentially untouched since 2007. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 18:49, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete per stated reasoning —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Golf

Extremely minimal content; educational/book scope is unclear; abandoned for >1 decade. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:15, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Counterterror Joint Command

Unclear how this falls into WB scope—doesn't seem to be an educational book, and educational scope is undefined; abandoned as well —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:17, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete - this is perplexing; it's written like a policy proposal on behalf of an agency, not a textbook. From context I think it's about the w:National Police Agency (Taiwan), but it's entirely unclear whether this was intended as an official report or some sort of weird fan fiction. Either way, it doesn't belong here. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 19:31, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Flight Attendant Manual

Abandoned almost 2 decades; consists only of a list of country codes and the phonetic alphabet. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

History of the ODU Art Department

A collection of fragmentary biographies and interviews of members of the ODU (Old Dominion University) art department. Some of these are individually interesting, I guess, but they don't really add up to a history of the department, let alone to an instructional text. Most editing activity appears to have been around 2008-09; there's almost no activity since then. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 19:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Making Neon Signs

The following discussion has concluded. Please open a new discussion for any further comments.

Understanding the National Certificate of Educational Achievement

Scope unclear; very little content; abandoned >1 decade —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 19:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Release Management

Abandoned almost 2 decades; very little content; unclear what its scope as a book is —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Management for IT Professionals

Minimal content; book scope unclear; abandoned almost 2 decades —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Living in Bangkok

Minimal content; consists of single chapter that contains likely outdated information —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:14, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Limburgish

Abandoned; single chapter with minimal content —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:19, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

In general, I think deletion not solve anything. While the contents is minimal, it's still better than nothing at all. Rather, an invitation should be made to expand on it. --Ooswesthoesbes (discuss • contribs) 06:27, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Ooswesthoesbes! While I understand your perspective, I unfortunately disagree. Wikibooks has a huge number of abandoned stubs like this one, which I think results in clutter and makes the entire project less useful as a result. Due to their nature and structure, books require a greater committed investment to make than, say, WP articles, and these little scraps are rarely developed here. This book has had plenty of opportunity for expansion since you started it over a decade ago, but nobody has actually made any effort to do so. Based on the evidence from the past decade, when weighing the likelihood of the book being properly developed going forward versus the active negative impact of its continued presence in this state, I favor deletion. Moreover, in the rare case that someone came along later and wanted to revive this book specifically, it could be undeleted. Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 13:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Introduction to BASIC

Consists only of a few paragraphs and then a compilation of links —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

International Baccalaureate

Not actually a book in and of itself; rather, it is just a compilation of links to other books —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

HP Media Vault

Book-like scope is unclear; very minimal content —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:35, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete - how-to content isn't necessarily out of scope, but this only describes how to perform a single (fairly straightforward) task, for a product which has been off the market for ~15 years and is unlikely to be of interest to future editors. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 01:02, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

GUI Design Principles

Single page that was never properly integrated into a book as it should have been —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:37, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Blender 3D: Game-making in Blender

Obsolete book with almost no content —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:38, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Delete - as the note atop the table of contents says, "This book is obsolete. The Blender Game Engine was removed in 2018." No substantial content seems to ever have been written, and it seems unlikely that any will be. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 17:26, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Basketball

Abandoned almost 2 decades; doesn't contain much beyond what you'd find in a WP article —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:41, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

I love the game, but yes, this has no real content. That said, there's little danger in keeping it and it could plausibly be improved, so I'm weak keep. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Bug Free Programming

Unclear how exactly this constitutes an educational book; scope is unclear —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:45, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Wow, I didn't even remember this one. I think it's perfectly clear how this is educational and the scope couldn't be clearer, either, but I'm not going to finish it so go ahead and delete it. Főszerkesztő Úr (discuss • contribs) 12:35, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Character List for Baxter&Sagart

Seems completely out of scope as an educational book; it's just a list of characters and outlinks —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:53, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Adding Character List for Karlgren's GSR and Character List for Schuessler's CGSR for the same reason —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

These three books do make a package and I agree they should be considered together. However, I strongly object to deleting them. They are really extremely useful resources. I use them every week and I know that many people who do work on Old Chinese phonology do so. There are lots of books out there that are lists of characters, these are called dictionaries. For example Axel Schuessler's ABC Etymological Dictionary of Old Chinese, or Pulleyblank's Lexicon of Reconstructed Pronunciation in Early Middle Chinese, Late Middle Chinese, and Early Mandarin. I see it as entirely a good thing for reference works of this kind to be available free online rather than only in expensive books in university research libraries. If this is in violation of a Wikibooks policy, I would at least like that policy to be drawn to my attention and to have some constructive comment offered about which Wikiproject such a resource should fall under. I will also say on a personal note that I have put literally hundreds of hours of work into these projects and it would grieve me a lot to see this work simply vanish, in particular when I know that colleagues around the world use these books. --Tibetologist (discuss • contribs) 07:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Tibetologist, and thank you for the feedback! Official Wikibooks policy does not permit standalone dictionaries (see WB:DICT), though I understand the argument that it is a useful resource. I am wondering if there might be a home for it at Wiktionary or Wikiversity? Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 12:14, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

The policy says to use Wiktionary, but these books cannot be moved there. In fact they link there, you can understand me as having made an index to wiktionary, if you like, where the ORDER of the characters is extremely important, information that would be lost in Wiktionary.

Wikiversity is not a project I participate in, and in any event my books here are older than it, so this option was not available for me at the relevant moment. If you are offering to move my books to Wikiversity, that is very kind of you and I will very graciously accept. Tibetologist (discuss • contribs) 14:10, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I have pinged over at Wikiversity Colloquium to ask about suitability and have looped you into the conversation over there. Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 18:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Per v:Wikiversity:Colloquium#Import_Resource_From_Wikibooks?, I recommend copying and pasting, including attribution via the edit summary and talk page, add appropriate categories and links, and then it could be deleted locally. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Citroën XM

Abandoned >1 decade; very minimal content —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Happiness

Significant NPOV issues; not much content; abandoned for >1 decade —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 23:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Islamic Studies Grade 1

Abandoned >1 decade with very little content —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 00:03, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete - the table of contents makes it clear that this book was intended to house POV religious content (e.g. a chapter titled "Allah Is The One"). This is incompatible with WB:NPOV. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 01:12, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Suomen kieli käyttöön

Multiple pages in this book are written entirely in Finnish, which is out of the enWB scope. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 00:09, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Austrian German

Abandoned almost 2 decades; scope not well outlined, main page only; minimal content insufficient for book. —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 12:18, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete + comments on the page, like "[Austrian German] is much more mild, liberal and melodious unlike the German in Germany which is harsh, arrogant and even somewhat mastering", are confusing and I fail to see the need to keep such an underdeveloped "book". —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 19:47, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Several pages in Hobo tourism and Hobo travel journalism

The following pages are entirely self-promotional content that is suitable for a blog but not WB (same contributor made the now-deleted pages from above).

• Hobo tourism/Third creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa
• Hobo tourism/Third African trip
• Hobo tourism/Visiting Death
• Hobo tourism/One day in an Afghan prison
• Hobo tourism/Around the world with empty pockets
• Hobo tourism/Indian dreams
• Hobo tourism/Two months of wandering and 14 days behind bars
• Hobo tourism/Holiday of wandering mzungu
• Hobo tourism/Afghan prisoner
• Hobo tourism/Two hundred days in Latin America
• Hobo tourism/Mongolian huyvaldagch
• Hobo tourism/Six months by islands... and countries
• Hobo tourism/Viktor Pinchuk's expedition to the Islands of Oceania
• Hobo tourism/Viktor Pinchuk's solo expedition to Africa (2017/18)
• Hobo tourism/Latin American expedition of Viktor Pinchuk
• Hobo tourism/Bum tour of winter Japan
• Hobo tourism/Afghan Expedition of Viktor Pinchuk
• Hobo tourism/Second creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa
• Hobo tourism/Creative trip to Mongolia
• Hobo tourism/Creative trip to India
• Hobo tourism/First creative trip of Viktor Pinchuk to Africa
• Hobo tourism/Tropical fever in the bum tour (an example from practice)
• Hobo tourism/African Robbery
• Hobo travel journalism/With a backpack around the planet (rubric in the newspaper “Southern Capital”)
• Hobo travel journalism/Returning from distant wanderings (rubric in the newspaper "Republic of Crimea")
• Hobo travel journalism/Wind of wanderings (rubric in the newspaper "Crimean Time")
• Hobo travel journalism/Around the World (rubric in the newspaper "Crimean Observer")
• Hobo travel journalism/Travel notes (rubric in the ProX magazine)

—Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 22:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete - I would support deleting the entire book, not just these chapters. Even aside from the self-promotional content listed above, other chapters give some extremely questionable advice on sleeping arrangements, such as:

• Trespassing on private property (Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In halls and stairwells; Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/On objects under construction)
• Sleeping inside archaeological sites (Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In the ancient pyramid)
• Harassing locals if they don't let you into their house (Hobo tourism/Overnight stays in long intercontinental journeys/In Aboriginal dwellings - "independently knock on any dwelling, asking for a place under a canopy in the yard; with a negative result, repeating the action repeatedly")

Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 04:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

files from Phoenix Wright

Used for decorative, not educational, purposes (WB:NFCC#8): File:AAIME Official Artwork.jpg, File:PWAAJFA episode1.png, File:PW JFA Official Artwork.jpg, File:Gyakuten Kenji 2 Official Artwork.png, File:AJ officialart.jpg, File:PW T&T Official Artwork.jpg, File:SMB2 dream staircase art.jpg.

Galleries (WB:NFCC#3): File:Moonflow 27.jpg, File:Macalania 18.jpg, File:Chauncey LM.jpg , File:King Boo LM.jpg, File:Boolossus LM.jpg. — Ирука¹³ 16:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

My thoughts below:

• File:AAIME Official Artwork.jpg Delete purely decorative
• File:PWAAJFA episode1.png Delete purely decorative
• File:PW JFA Official Artwork.jpg Delete purely decorative
• File:Gyakuten Kenji 2 Official Artwork.png Delete purely decorative
• File:AJ officialart.jpg Delete purely decorative
• File:PW T&T Official Artwork.jpg Delete purely decorative
• File:SMB2 dream staircase art.jpg Delete purely decorative
• File:Moonflow 27.jpg Keep low resolution and seems to be illustrating something
• File:Macalania 18.jpg Uncertain
• File:Chauncey LM.jpg Keep seems to be actually illustrating something
• File:King Boo LM.jpg Keep seems to be actually illustrating something
• File:Boolossus LM.jpg Keep seems to be actually illustrating something

Cheers —Kittycataclysm (discuss • contribs) 22:12, 30 October 2024 (UTC)